@truthseeker OH! Sorry, lol. I got up to you coffee order at Dunkin' Donuts before you added more, thinking... No one woke up or got murdered in this narrative. Wtf.
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Street Work With the Sisters
by truthseeker in"be there at 7:30" i'm told.
that's where the action is.. it's early saturday morning in passaic, nj.
it's january and i'm bloody freezing.. i'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares.
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Street Work With the Sisters
by truthseeker in"be there at 7:30" i'm told.
that's where the action is.. it's early saturday morning in passaic, nj.
it's january and i'm bloody freezing.. i'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares.
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Seriously...
Somebody page me when there's a plot twist.
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A different viewpoint of "many will come in my name saying I am the Christ"
by truthseeker inmost jws are familiar with the scripture at matthew 24:5: "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘i am the christ,’ and they will lead many astray.".
it is implied that people would come in jesus' name declaring that they were christ - but could there be another view on this scripture?
could this also mean that jesus said many would come in his name saying he is christ?.
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I'm going to skip the brainteaser and make this observation on Matthew 24:5...
There will be imposters of the Christ, leading people astray.
Just who is Christ? John 14:6, Jesus says "I am... the truth."
What does Watchtower call itself? The truth.
And lead many astray, they do.
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People are nice and life is awesome.
by OneEyedJoe ini got invited as a +1 to someone's house yesterday to watch the fireworks.
i'd never met the hosts, and it seemed that most of the people in the group only knew one or two other people there.
yet i felt more genuine friendship from everyone there than i ever felt at any jw gathering.
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@zeb. That's nice. Some asshole stole my BlackBerry yesterday. Satan's world has been nicer to you that it has to me, lol. Bloody worldly people.
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Yes the WTBTS wrote this stuff
by Giordano inthis was posted about two years ago.
we have a lot of newbies who deserve to know what the society actually printed.. yes really.
after meticulous research here are the documented scientific pronouncements from the wtbt$.. note: the golden age became the awake magazine.. the reference twtp is the way to paradise a 1924 book by w. e. van amburgh, who was the secretary/treasurer of the watchtower bible & tract society for 43 years.
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“Disease (is caused by) fermentation and heat.........not germs." GA Aug 25 1926
Hey, that's one step up from disease being attributed to Jehovah's disapproval on the afflicted one. Turns out all King Uzziah needed was a little ventilation in his palace.
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Being taught to explain rape when a kid
by purrpurr indoes anyone else recall in the 80s/90s that when the minor/child blood issue was discussed the jw children were taught to say that being forced to have blood would be like rape?
and then had to be able to explain what rape is?
apparently there was a court case were the drs were trying to get a court order to force a blood transfusion on a jw child, and the child said it would be like rape to her and the judge asked her to explain what rape is to see if she understood what she was saying.. that went round my cong at least as a "fine witness " and all the parents were encouraged to have their kids practice the whole "explain rape" thing.. anyone else remember this?.
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But is it rape if the patient doesn't scream during the transfusion?
Gosh, I remember talking about the Dinah story with my father when I was in my early teens. He told me that unless I scream for my life during rape, I'm a fornicator. So I asked him what would happen if the rapist held a knife to my throat or put a gun to my head and said he'll kill me if I scream. WHAM! Sr said I still had to scream so it wouldn't be fornication. Seeing my wide-eyed horror, he then added, "most rapists with weapons won't follow through with the murder. They just use it to scare the woman."
"Most"! How comforting that "most rapists" is good enough to the Society, because a dead rape victim is better than a living "fornicator". It's interesting to contrast this policy with clerks being held up - whether at a bank, or a tiny convenience store. Management's policy for when the robber is armed is to ALWAYS comply - even at the expense of all the store's funds. Why? Because it's not worth risking a human life for anything! It's not a chance worth taking.
How's that for Watchtower? A human life is cheaper than the "symbol" of it (be it through taking blood, or failing to scream to protect your status within the congregation). Seriously messed up.
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I got this one from @dubstepped in his latest interview with Fernando (http://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-13-fernando-is-shunned-by-jehovahs-witnesses/).
Life as a dutiful JW, week after week after week after...
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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?
by nowwhat? inchristians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.
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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?
by blownaway ini guess it would depend for me.
some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.
many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.
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How do you turn in someone who is dead to you?
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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?
by nowwhat? inchristians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.
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@jws: "But do they believe Jesus was our redeemer. Yes. They believe in the new testament. They are Christians."
Redeemer for who? The anointed, only. In Watchtower terms, the literal 144,000. The rest of the Witnesses are not part of this New Covenant with Christ as their redeemer. And the Bible is not uncertain to what happens to those outside of this covenant. "There is no hope". Check out Ephesians 2:12.
As for Witnesses believing in the New Testament, they believe it's written only for 144,000 people. All of the hope offered to Christians, such as Romans 4:5, Romans 5:1, Romans 3, Romans 10 and especially Ephesians 2:8,9 which says "By this underserved kindness you have been saved through faith... No, it is not the result of works..." is openly withheld from regular Witnesses who must earn their salvation through works (consider the Kingdom Ministry of June 2012 which cites one of the reasons for preaching is to "ensure your own salvation").
Curiously, Watchtower picks and chooses which verses within the New Testament to apply to the two classes of Witnesses. A verse like John 3:3 where Jesus tells Nicodemus that unless "anyone is born again", he won't be able to see the kingdom of God. This is for the 144,000 only. Yet, thirteen verses later, the "for God loved the world so much that he gave..." scripture is applied for all Witnesses. And there are NO distinctions between the verses of who Jesus is addressing.
There is no questioning that Watchtower is not Christian and is, in fact, antichrist. Anti in Greek doesn't alway mean "against", but it can also mean "instead of". The Organization acts INSTEAD of Christ for those attempting to be Christian. @Jerryh did a great analysis of this in a comment on @ConcernedParent's thread recently. They wrote:
"Anti in English means opposed or against but here is ἀντὶ in the New Testament.
ὀφθαλμὸν ἀντὶ ὀφθαλμοῦ καὶ ὀδόντα ἀντὶ ὀδόντος.
(Mat 5:38) eye for eye and tooth for tooth
ἀντὶ τοῦ λέγειν ὑμᾶς
(Jam 4:15) Instead you ought to say
ἀντὶ in the NT often means substitute and that is what the GB claims for themselves, alternative mediators between God and humanity. Jesus is their mediator and they are the mediator for the rest of us."